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		<title>Comment on Workplace Decisions by robin</title>
		<link>http://librarian07.wordpress.com/2009/10/17/workplace-decisions/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely believe that colleagues, no matter where they fall on the hierarchical structure, CAN be friends. In fact, at one of my recent conferences one of the presenters made a really good point. What about those situations where it can&#039;t be avoided? Say you work in a small-town, where you&#039;re actually friends with everyone. Well, you&#039;re going to be supervising some of them and working under some of them, so figure out a way to make it work. 

The dynamic is very interesting, and there will always be those folks who can&#039;t really handle it. When I was Head Librarian I knew which ones I could call my friends and which ones simply couldn&#039;t navigate that transition. So you treat each employee (or supervisor) accordingly. 

It always amazes me when people have that very old-fashioned way of looking at coworkers, as though you shouldn&#039;t ever get close to them or form friendships with anyone. But we spend more time with our coworkers than we do with our very closest &quot;friends&quot; outside of work. If there&#039;s anyone you should be able to trust, it&#039;s your coworkers. In fact, I know some of my coworkers better than I know my best friend (and I&#039;ve known her since kindergarten). 

This is another one of those situations where the ivory-tower or conventional wisdom may not apply when you get into the real world, and that becomes crystal clear after a few months of actual supervision, as I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve figured out. Bottom line is you do what&#039;s comfortable for you, while respecting what&#039;s comfortable for other folks too. And if you lose a few friends in the process, they were never friends to begin with, so you treat them like subordinates and move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely believe that colleagues, no matter where they fall on the hierarchical structure, CAN be friends. In fact, at one of my recent conferences one of the presenters made a really good point. What about those situations where it can&#8217;t be avoided? Say you work in a small-town, where you&#8217;re actually friends with everyone. Well, you&#8217;re going to be supervising some of them and working under some of them, so figure out a way to make it work. </p>
<p>The dynamic is very interesting, and there will always be those folks who can&#8217;t really handle it. When I was Head Librarian I knew which ones I could call my friends and which ones simply couldn&#8217;t navigate that transition. So you treat each employee (or supervisor) accordingly. </p>
<p>It always amazes me when people have that very old-fashioned way of looking at coworkers, as though you shouldn&#8217;t ever get close to them or form friendships with anyone. But we spend more time with our coworkers than we do with our very closest &#8220;friends&#8221; outside of work. If there&#8217;s anyone you should be able to trust, it&#8217;s your coworkers. In fact, I know some of my coworkers better than I know my best friend (and I&#8217;ve known her since kindergarten). </p>
<p>This is another one of those situations where the ivory-tower or conventional wisdom may not apply when you get into the real world, and that becomes crystal clear after a few months of actual supervision, as I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve figured out. Bottom line is you do what&#8217;s comfortable for you, while respecting what&#8217;s comfortable for other folks too. And if you lose a few friends in the process, they were never friends to begin with, so you treat them like subordinates and move on.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Workplace Decisions by Ivy</title>
		<link>http://librarian07.wordpress.com/2009/10/17/workplace-decisions/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;I believe that friendship is partly based on mutual respect for one another; a respect for one another’s opinion; choices, etc

If that&#039;s part of it, then what are the other parts? I&#039;d say the other parts of friendship are close and personal. Friends are people you tell your secrets to, your hopes and dreams and rants and desires and truths.

A subordinate-superior relationship, while also partly based on respect, is also based on a hierarchical and political dynamic, as opposed to a close, personal one. I consider my friends and I to be on the same (or at least a similar) level. My supervisors or my subordinates, by their very nature, cannot be.

That&#039;s not to say that there isn&#039;t some overlap in the Venn diagram of workplace relationships and friendships, and I think our environment demonstrates that exceptionally well. And that&#039;s not to say that one can&#039;t or shouldn&#039;t supervise one&#039;s friends. But I think assuming the dynamics between the two types of relationships is identical is shortsighted and idealistic.

To address the real question,  “should that friend decline this opportunity?”: Because of friendship? Absolutely not. The only reason a person should accept or decline an opportunity like that should be based on that person&#039;s personal reasons, and not what any of his or her friends think. If that person&#039;s friend thought she should jump off a bridge, would she be swayed in that regard? I think you should make your decisions for yourself and your values and what&#039;s important to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;I believe that friendship is partly based on mutual respect for one another; a respect for one another’s opinion; choices, etc</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s part of it, then what are the other parts? I&#8217;d say the other parts of friendship are close and personal. Friends are people you tell your secrets to, your hopes and dreams and rants and desires and truths.</p>
<p>A subordinate-superior relationship, while also partly based on respect, is also based on a hierarchical and political dynamic, as opposed to a close, personal one. I consider my friends and I to be on the same (or at least a similar) level. My supervisors or my subordinates, by their very nature, cannot be.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say that there isn&#8217;t some overlap in the Venn diagram of workplace relationships and friendships, and I think our environment demonstrates that exceptionally well. And that&#8217;s not to say that one can&#8217;t or shouldn&#8217;t supervise one&#8217;s friends. But I think assuming the dynamics between the two types of relationships is identical is shortsighted and idealistic.</p>
<p>To address the real question,  “should that friend decline this opportunity?”: Because of friendship? Absolutely not. The only reason a person should accept or decline an opportunity like that should be based on that person&#8217;s personal reasons, and not what any of his or her friends think. If that person&#8217;s friend thought she should jump off a bridge, would she be swayed in that regard? I think you should make your decisions for yourself and your values and what&#8217;s important to you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is it me? by Ivy</title>
		<link>http://librarian07.wordpress.com/2009/09/23/is-it-me/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering if maybe they weren&#039;t at such a worskshop because they knew they were perhaps lacking in the social/customer service skills area and wanted to learn how to improve their skills?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering if maybe they weren&#8217;t at such a worskshop because they knew they were perhaps lacking in the social/customer service skills area and wanted to learn how to improve their skills?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is it me? by robin</title>
		<link>http://librarian07.wordpress.com/2009/09/23/is-it-me/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting... I think maybe the librarian to patron relationship is easier than the librarian to librarian relationship because in the former we&#039;re in a position of power and there are a set of rules or procedures that guide our interactions. I also think that online social networking is way easier than doing it face-to-face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting&#8230; I think maybe the librarian to patron relationship is easier than the librarian to librarian relationship because in the former we&#8217;re in a position of power and there are a set of rules or procedures that guide our interactions. I also think that online social networking is way easier than doing it face-to-face.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How far is too far? by Lucy</title>
		<link>http://librarian07.wordpress.com/2009/02/05/how-far-is-too-far/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 18:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further complicating the matter are the differing  perspespectives from which we (me and my employer) operate -- library school-trained as opposed to business school-trained. So yes, this will continue to be a conundrum; but one that I am willing to navigate. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further complicating the matter are the differing  perspespectives from which we (me and my employer) operate &#8212; library school-trained as opposed to business school-trained. So yes, this will continue to be a conundrum; but one that I am willing to navigate. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on How far is too far? by robin</title>
		<link>http://librarian07.wordpress.com/2009/02/05/how-far-is-too-far/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 07:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To play devil&#039;s advocate for a moment... Do you think your employer feels the same way? Or would they rather you spend your time on other things? And I mean that as a legitimate question because I can see both sides. On the one hand, they have a right to be stingy with your time, but on the other, they want us to have a bright and shiny reputation which this encounter helped to enable. Interesting conundrum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To play devil&#8217;s advocate for a moment&#8230; Do you think your employer feels the same way? Or would they rather you spend your time on other things? And I mean that as a legitimate question because I can see both sides. On the one hand, they have a right to be stingy with your time, but on the other, they want us to have a bright and shiny reputation which this encounter helped to enable. Interesting conundrum.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Administrative Lessons Learned by librarian07</title>
		<link>http://librarian07.wordpress.com/2008/09/07/administrative-discomfort/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>librarian07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 02:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL! Of course you do my dear! This is why, to me, you are and will always be the Renaissance Librarian!

p.s. I will have to shadow you as you work through the calculations (again!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL! Of course you do my dear! This is why, to me, you are and will always be the Renaissance Librarian!</p>
<p>p.s. I will have to shadow you as you work through the calculations (again!)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Administrative Lessons Learned by Ivy</title>
		<link>http://librarian07.wordpress.com/2008/09/07/administrative-discomfort/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use algebra to calculate how much available space we have left in the stacks. Just sayin.&#039;

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use algebra to calculate how much available space we have left in the stacks. Just sayin.&#8217;</p>
<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Exciting project by robin</title>
		<link>http://librarian07.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/exciting-project/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really love that this project gives the Dean of Education a whole different perspective on what we do. Sortof a more in-the-trenches version. That&#039;s almost better than what we hope to acheive with the students!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really love that this project gives the Dean of Education a whole different perspective on what we do. Sortof a more in-the-trenches version. That&#8217;s almost better than what we hope to acheive with the students!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ode to Librarianship by Ivy</title>
		<link>http://librarian07.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/ode-to-librarianship/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too wonder if that feeling will subside, and while I&#039;m sure someday it will, in the meantime I plan on squeezing every drop out of it while it&#039;s there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too wonder if that feeling will subside, and while I&#8217;m sure someday it will, in the meantime I plan on squeezing every drop out of it while it&#8217;s there.</p>
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